Will Oppos watch the debate tonight?

"Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo" (rustyvandura)
09/26/2016 at 11:18 • Filed to: None

Why or why not?

For my part, I will wait for the rehash tomorrow on WSJ, NYT and NPR.

DISCUSSION (89)

Daily Drives a Dragon - One Last Lap > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
09/26/2016 at 11:19

I’ll probably catch at least some tonight and listen to NPR tomorrow morning.

Tripper > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
09/26/2016 at 11:21

I will not because I hate clowns.

Snuze: Needs another Swede > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
09/26/2016 at 11:22

I think this election is pretty much Kodos vs. Kang, so why waste my time? I will not be watching.

shop-teacher > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
09/26/2016 at 11:23

I’d rather slam my gentleman’s bits in a sliding glass door.

JeepJeremy > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
09/26/2016 at 11:25

I plan on watching. I’m interested in hearing what each candidate has to say and seeing how the spectacle unfolds. I’m a historian, I must bear witness

TheHondaBro > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
09/26/2016 at 11:25

Lizard vs Orange

Wheelerguy > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
09/26/2016 at 11:26

Let’s just turn each other to shreds, aye. Get in a bunker, grab all the TG2, CHOC, Ignition and other car films and shows you can get, provisions good for 4000 people that can last a year tops, and have at least two people on periscope duty.

If it’s still status quo (Hillary), we rise as if everything’s normal. If not, then those who will sow up on The Grand Tour will need the best power suit ever made.

interstate366, now In The Industry > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
09/26/2016 at 11:29

No, because I’m not voting for either of them.

TheHondaBro > shop-teacher
09/26/2016 at 11:31

Fuck that hurt.

haveacarortwoorthree2 > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
09/26/2016 at 11:32

I’d rather be kicked in the junk for 2 straight hours than watch either of these turds.

shop-teacher > TheHondaBro
09/26/2016 at 11:34

You didn’t have to actua ... Never mind ... Yeah, I bet it did!

TheHondaBro > shop-teacher
09/26/2016 at 11:36

I just did it so I wouldn’t have to watch the debate. That was the arrangement, no?

shop-teacher > TheHondaBro
09/26/2016 at 11:37

Uhhhhhh .... Yes ... Sure

Textured Soy Protein > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
09/26/2016 at 11:39

It will probably be on one or more of the TVs at the gym while I do my cardio, with closed captions too small for me to read. But that’s about as much attention as I care to pay to it. I know who I’m voting for, this won’t change anything.

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JGrabowMSt > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
09/26/2016 at 11:40

I will be watching it. Its a duty as a citizen to be informed. I watched both nominee acceptance speeches, not because I had interest, but because I do want to know what is coming out of their mouths. Not good, but important to at least acknowledge.

So yes, I may not catch it live, but I will make an attempt to watch it all the way through.

If nothing else, Im curious about the “no commercial breaks” thing. I used to work in radio/tv, so when advertising doesnt air, the money isnt there. Im curious about how its going to go, and if something newsworthy will occur.

ttyymmnn > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
09/26/2016 at 11:44

Nope. I’ll read about it in the funny papers. It’s too damned depressing that these two are the best this country has to offer. Time was they picked the candidate who was least offensive. Not any more.

wiffleballtony > Snuze: Needs another Swede
09/26/2016 at 11:45

If you have a better way to exchange protein chains, I’d like to hear it!

For Sweden > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
09/26/2016 at 11:45

I’d rather crush my Volvo

wiffleballtony > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
09/26/2016 at 11:49

“Debate”

Mercedes Streeter > shop-teacher
09/26/2016 at 11:56

Well, that’s a way to get a discount on my surgery, do it myself! Anyone got a table saw?

luvMeSome142 & some Lincoln! > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
09/26/2016 at 12:06

Not voting for either. This whole campaign season (year and a half?) has been pretty entertaining though. I can’t watch it tonight, but I’ll probably watch some of it later and I’ll definitely pay attention to the post debate analysis.

If I make it to the polls I’ll probably vote for Gary Johnson, just to be included in the record breaking Libertarian Party showing (still single digit percentages, I’m sure).

Highlander-Datsuns are Forever > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
09/26/2016 at 12:07

It will be like watching a SNL parody except these aren’t actors unfortunately.

Pixel > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
09/26/2016 at 12:10

I should, but I just can’t stomach the idea.

Daily Drives a Dragon - One Last Lap > shop-teacher
09/26/2016 at 12:12

Oh sweet jesus you’re a monster.

Daily Drives a Dragon - One Last Lap > Highlander-Datsuns are Forever
09/26/2016 at 12:13

I’m pretty sure that SNL just ran transcripts of Palin speaking.

Tristan > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
09/26/2016 at 12:20

I’ll be watching. It’s gone from entertainment to disgust to I’m going to sit back and watch the world burn. I can’t see it going well for either one. It’s going to be cringe -worthy at best.

marshknute > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
09/26/2016 at 12:24

I’ll be watching.

And maybe I shouldn’t speak politics on Oppo, but I find it pretty alarming that people are so dismissive of BOTH candidates. I can understand the Trump hate, but for the life of me can’t figure out how anyone can consider Hillary to be just as bad.

Speaking as a registered Republican, I’m not afraid to admit that she is rediculously qualified, mentally tougher than any other living politician, and has a textbook presidential temperament.

And all the undecided Bernie supporters should love her since her NY Senate voting record is more Liberal than 70% of her democratic colleagues (on par with Elizabeth Warren and only slightly right of Bernie). But I guess Bill playing Hide The Master Sword with Monica has really tarnished the Clinton name amongst my elders (I was only 3 at that time).

OPPOsaurus WRX > JGrabowMSt
09/26/2016 at 12:32

How will u get informed when all they spew are lies?

I’ll probably watch but I find it hard to turn away from trainwreck too

DaftRyosuke - So Long and Thanks for All the Fish! > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
09/26/2016 at 12:34

Nope. Gotta go buy a new phone.

B/Xmrrmvr > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
09/26/2016 at 12:34

I already have extensive knowledge of each candidate’s supposed policies, things each of them have said/done that show that they plan to not enact certain parts of their supposed policies or half-ass it/drag their feet, and their relationship with their respective parties during the primaries and the GE.

I honestly don’t think I’m going to miss much, if anything that I already don’t know.

If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
09/26/2016 at 12:41

If I wanted to watch a snake and a mongoose going at it I’d just tune in to NatGeo.

If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent > For Sweden
09/26/2016 at 12:42

You mean you’d rather break a crushing machine with your Volvo, right?

Santiago of Escuderia Boricua > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
09/26/2016 at 12:43

I don’t think my liver can handle it

Santiago of Escuderia Boricua > Snuze: Needs another Swede
09/26/2016 at 12:44

not quite...

Santiago of Escuderia Boricua > marshknute
09/26/2016 at 12:46

She does at least seem to be trying to meet the bernie group halfway and make some progress there

unclevanos (Ovaltine Jenkins) > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
09/26/2016 at 12:46

I’d rather eat a rear main seal. One sounds like a trumpet trying to talk in a library the other has the vocabulary skills of an 8 year old and has a dead chia pet on top.

JGrabowMSt > OPPOsaurus WRX
09/26/2016 at 12:54

The internet.

PatBateman > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
09/26/2016 at 12:57

Not watching, don’t care.

Garfield/Odie 2016

Andy Sheehan, StreetsideStig > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
09/26/2016 at 13:10

No. Because nothing of value will be added and it would be a complete waste of time. Just like the administration of whoever wins.

Andy Sheehan, StreetsideStig > If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent
09/26/2016 at 13:13

“Welcome to the Hoodraulic press channel. Today we have this 240. Let’s see.”

TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts. > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
09/26/2016 at 13:14

I’ve already seen it. Spoiler Alert below:

Hillary: You’re a dick

Donald: No, you’re a dick.

fin.

StndIbnz, Drives a MSRT8 > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
09/26/2016 at 13:22

https://imgflip.com/i/v59i9

MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
09/26/2016 at 13:29

Due to the fact that they cut Gary Johnson out of the debates I won’t be watching.

I dislike these two creatures so much I know who I’m voting for and he won’t be on TV tonight.

I’ll look at some re-caps from independent sources (I’m sure BBC will cover it, giving they’re not from this country it doesn’t help them to lean 1 way or the other) but definitely not wasting my time on this corrupt crap.

shop-teacher > Daily Drives a Dragon - One Last Lap
09/26/2016 at 13:32

Sacrifices have to be made, people!

shop-teacher > Mercedes Streeter
09/26/2016 at 13:32

Yes ... but you can’t use it for that ...

Tekamul > Snuze: Needs another Swede
09/26/2016 at 13:38

You’re going to miss them taking off their suits and having a good laugh about Johnson and Stein.

Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now) > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
09/26/2016 at 13:45

It’s a battle between the pinnacle of the establishment and the nadir of the anti-establishment. I don’t have cable or internet right now, so I’ll probably just have to catch the recap. I just hope they really control the format, and the moderator actually does his job.

Mercedes Streeter > shop-teacher
09/26/2016 at 13:46

*In Jeremy Clarkson voice*

What’s the worst that can happen?

Daily Drives a Dragon - One Last Lap > shop-teacher
09/26/2016 at 13:48

So much pain

shop-teacher > Mercedes Streeter
09/26/2016 at 13:53

*In James May’s voice *

Aside from, you know, medical/death stuff ... I wouldn’t be able to use my table saw again.

shop-teacher > Daily Drives a Dragon - One Last Lap
09/26/2016 at 13:55

Could be worse, you could have to watch that debate!

RallyWrench > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
09/26/2016 at 13:56

No damn way. I might listen a little on NPR just to laugh/cry, but I’ll also be waiting for the summary of the trainwreck tomorrow.

RallyWrench > Andy Sheehan, StreetsideStig
09/26/2016 at 13:57

Ay, we going to need beeger press.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > shop-teacher
09/26/2016 at 14:11

All things considered in the sub-thread, I’m leaning toward the debate.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Mercedes Streeter
09/26/2016 at 14:12

At this point, I’m leaning toward the debate because I don’t wanna see -- or ponder -- you hurting yourself.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > JGrabowMSt
09/26/2016 at 14:14

You realize that it will be rigged, right? Skewed toward a preference that participants’ remarks are at least plausibly true accurate...

shop-teacher > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
09/26/2016 at 14:15

Hey, you gotta do what you gotta do :)

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > marshknute
09/26/2016 at 14:21

You are free to discuss politics here, it’s just that if you are overly glib about it, some very thoughtful Oppos will look past your remarks, which choice I respect.

When Trump first started to gain momentum, I wanted him to be a serious alternative to Hillary. I am a registered Democrat, but I practice a conservative religion and I am a public school educator, so it’s hard to be a “reliable conservative.” Or to categorize me at all.

But Trump is bad news. I am convinced that he does not want to be president, and that he wants only to burnish his brand.

I have dear friends who love their country and are reliably conservative, and I respect their views. I do not think I can make a case to them that they should vote for HRC, but I think it is reasonable to ask them not to vote for Donald Trump.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > marshknute
09/26/2016 at 14:24

I also believe that if HRC were running against, say, Mitt Romney, there would be much less loathing of HRC. For one, Romney would not be fomenting all of the misogyny and racism that Trump is. And Mitt might beat HRC handily and fairly. I’d pick Mitt Romney over HRC. It’s just that when he ran, he was running against BHO and nobody could have wrested my BHO vote(s) from me.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Highlander-Datsuns are Forever
09/26/2016 at 14:24

But Donald Trump is an actor...

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > ttyymmnn
09/26/2016 at 14:25

Wait a minute: isn’t that exactly what’s happening here? Or are you speaking of degrees? As in, nowadays it’s a matter of who’s less loathesome?

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > luvMeSome142 & some Lincoln!
09/26/2016 at 14:27

Lotta Gary Johnson Oppos, it seems. The “What’s Aleppo” gaff was a pretty serious one.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > JeepJeremy
09/26/2016 at 14:27

A solid motivation. Good on you.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner
09/26/2016 at 14:28

Yes, I should also look at BBC tomorrow. Thanks for the reminder.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Textured Soy Protein
09/26/2016 at 14:28

I’ll be doing school work.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > unclevanos (Ovaltine Jenkins)
09/26/2016 at 14:29

Apt.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts.
09/26/2016 at 14:30

Wrong.

Hillary: “Now, Donald... ”

Donald: “Bitch.”

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > StndIbnz, Drives a MSRT8
09/26/2016 at 14:31

You made me laugh at something tasteless and offensive.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Tristan
09/26/2016 at 14:32

Pretty much how I see it. I think Trump has dragged the national attitude down to a place where HRC is getting worse than she actually deserves, and she deserves plenty.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now)
09/26/2016 at 14:33

You mean, rig the debate? (I am being facetious. I agree with you.)

ttyymmnn > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
09/26/2016 at 14:37

No, I think that, in the past, candidates were chosen by their party because they were electable. Candidates who were popular with the base, and might influence independent or swing voters, were the norm. Now, we have candidates who inspire outright loathing by their opponents. I think the Democrats, in their blind drive to see Hillary nominated, have managed to find an opponent for Trump who is not entirely electable. Had they chosen anybody else, this thing would have been over months ago.

Mercedes Streeter > shop-teacher
09/26/2016 at 14:51

I wouldn’t be able to use my table saw again.

#Priorities. xD

Mercedes Streeter > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
09/26/2016 at 14:52

I’d rather watch the debates too, tbh...heck, there might be some comedy in them! :D

MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
09/26/2016 at 15:14

It’s sad that the only media coverage I can trust about our own debates is from another country. I understand why, but it still sucks that no one can truly be independent and unbiased.

shop-teacher > Mercedes Streeter
09/26/2016 at 15:28

Yep, mah $500 table saw :)

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > ttyymmnn
09/26/2016 at 16:01

I think the converse is also true: that any of the pack of miscreant Republicans would have had a shot at beating HRC outright.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner
09/26/2016 at 16:02

I take an average of WSJ and NYT.

MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
09/26/2016 at 16:27

I tend to look at those + CNN then cross reference BBC to see how much those 3 have warped.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > shop-teacher
09/26/2016 at 16:39

I’m department chair this year, and I’m taking two courses at the university to add a multi-subject authorization. I also have an important stewardship at my church that requires my attention. Tonight, I will be otherwise engaged, though I might have the audio. Of the RED HOT CHILI PEPPERS.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner
09/26/2016 at 16:40

I completely ignore the American cable news channels. Tainted and useless.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner
09/27/2016 at 12:51

Damn Gary for “What is Aleppo?”... I was close to giving him a protest vote. Maybe I still can work myself up to it.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
09/27/2016 at 12:54

Your last sentence is where I’m at with many of my family and friends. Please, please, please don’t sell your soul to vote for that man...

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo
09/27/2016 at 12:56

Huge ball dropped. The way the question was asked was a bit weird, but come on...

MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
09/27/2016 at 13:34

Did you know what Aleppo was before the incident? I try to be pretty aware of world issues, I had no idea.

I get your response to the above statement will be “but you’re not running for president”. You’re right. But as president he’ll also have the most skilled set of researchers and daily briefings from the CIA of all world issues. Focus on him not one tid bit of information that slipped his mind.

For the record I believe it was Wall Street Journal that ran the article busting him on that....it took them THREE corrections to their own article to properly describe Aleppo.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner
09/27/2016 at 13:54

Yes, I did . And, no, I’m not running for president.

FWIW, I wasn’t considering voting for him because I necessarily want him for president. A protest vote for the independent candidate just shows up better on the radar than a “no vote”...

MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
09/27/2016 at 14:06

Well you beat me on that one. And a correction to my point above, it was the New York Times - not the WSJ.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner
09/27/2016 at 14:15

Listen, I get it. There’s lots of shit going on in the world, and it’s pretty much impossible for one person to keep it all straight in their head. That said, the fact that he didn’t recognize (or remember) the word Aleppo makes it pretty easy to infer that he hasn’t been spending much time learning or thinking about one of the greatest humanitarian crises of our time.

MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
09/27/2016 at 15:18

And I get it too. I also think, if this is such a big issue for our presedential candidates that if Trump was asked that question with no lead up to it he would’ve said the same thing. That’s no endorsement, I know. But at the same time Johnson came out and said it was a fair question, he should’ve known better and apologized while promising to do better.

Catch Trump off guard about a city in the middle east and he’ll say he wants to drop a nuke on it without knowing why or what’s going on there.

To me Aleppo is a non-issue in concern to Johnson’s candidacy because he can learn, adjust, and adapt.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner
09/27/2016 at 15:42

I’m not comparing Johnson to Trump, I’m comparing Johnson to what a candidate for what is arguably the most powerful position in the world should actually be.

I do think that Johnson is a pretty smart, reasonable guy from most things I’ve learned about him. As sad as it is, if he’d been just a little more of a known public figure before the primaries and a little more socially adept (and wasn’t involved in selling ganga...), someone like him might have had a shot this year. http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/08/gary-johnson-profile-2016-libertarian-third-party-214162

Off-topic: I wish, after his emails were leaked, they would have run a three-way poll between Colin Powell, Hillary and Trump...